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2009 Cubs and xBABIP

Here are the 2009 Cubs starting position players BABIP and xBABIP (I used this handy tool):

Player       	BABIP	xBABIP
Soto	        0.251	0.314
Lee	        0.333	0.308
Fontenot	0.281	0.317
Theriot	        0.327	0.335
Ramirez	        0.331	0.306
Soriano	        0.280	0.305
Fukudome	0.314	0.332
Bradley	        0.311	0.322

Lee and Ramirez got a little lucky and the rest were a bit unlucky.  Geovany Soto got screwed.




COMMENTS

1. Stuart Turkeylink (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:42 AM

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-cubs-wrigley-bound/2009/11/the-easiest-decision-tom-ricketts-will-ever-make.html#more

I didn’t write that, but I’ve been saying the same thing for at least the last three years. If you can sign Soriano to a $136 million contract, you can draft Rick Porcello and pay him $7 million. These top-level talents are available every year. Teams like BOS and DET are taking chances on them and they’re paying off.

2. berselius (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:42 AM

Those numbers for Soto are insane

3. MB21 (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:43 AM

Berselius, how easy or difficult would it be to put a script together to automatically update the Cubs position players xBABIP in 2010?

4. MB21 (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:44 AM

Those numbers for Soto are insane

Yeah, I was a bit shocked to see that.  It made me interested in knowing which player with that many ABs had a higher difference between the two.

5. JCust (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:44 AM

Jesus Christ, that sucks for Geo. Perhaps volume of bong smoke correlates negatively with xBABIP? (dying laughing)

6. berselius (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:44 AM

It depends on where we’re getting the raw data from. If there’s someway to query fangraphs or something that updates the info it wouldn’t be too bad. It would be a lot trickier to set it up to read it from the players webpage.

7. MB21 (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:46 AM

It depends on where we’re getting the raw data from. If there’s someway to query fangraphs or something that updates the info it wouldn’t be too bad. It would be a lot trickier to set it up to read it from the players webpage.

Fangraphs is where I got the info.  I think they’re the only site that includes the numbers of fly balls, groundballs and popups a batter hits.

8. berselius (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:46 AM

I guess we could also just directly get the calculated number from THT too

9. MB21 (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:46 AM

Would a cron job work with querying fangraphs?

10. Rusty (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:48 AM

I thought Fontenot would have a bigger difference… its still enough that we could expect a small improvement.

11. MB21 (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:48 AM

I guess we could also just directly get the calculated number from THT too

They don’t have the info, which is odd considering the tool was designed by a THT writer.  They have LD% and obviously the AB, K, etc.  Here’s Soriano’s page:  http://www.hardballtimes.com/thtstats/main/player/847/alfonso-soriano

Fangraphs does have the info:  http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=847&position=2B/OF

12. Mercurial Outfielder (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:49 AM

The best thing to happen to me today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2guQYivZ6w

13. berselius (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:51 AM

Ah, I thought THT had the final numbers. Yes, I think cron would probably be the way to do it. I could probably hack something together pretty easily to get the data and setup something to add it to the webpage

14. MB21 (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:53 AM

I thought Fontenot would have a bigger difference… its still enough that we could expect a small improvement.

It would have brought his batting line up to around .265/.350/.400 if all the hits were singles.  Those are estimates, but they’re probably pretty close.  A much different batting line compared to what he really did:  .236/.301/.377

15. MB21 (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:54 AM

Ah, I thought THT had the final numbers. Yes, I think cron would probably be the way to do it. I could probably hack something together pretty easily to get the data and setup something to add it to the webpage

If you ever get time.  There’s no hurry obviously.  I’ll probably set up a separate page and have a link at the top of the page.  I just know that there were several times this past season I was interested in these numbers and didn’t want to do it for the entire team.  I didn’t even want to do that today so I only did the 8.  I’m lazy.  (dying laughing)

16. berselius (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:56 AM

Send me an email and I’ll look into it some evening/weekend. I have about 5 months or so to work on it (dying laughing)

17. berselius (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:56 AM

Something that would really excite me this offseason would be if fangraphs added platoon splits.

18. MB21 (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:57 AM

Send me an email and I’ll look into it some evening/weekend. I have about 5 months or so to work on it (dying laughing)

Thanks.  I have about 5 months to remember to send you an email, too.  (dying laughing)

19. MB21 (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 10:57 AM

Something that would really excite me this offseason would be if fangraphs added platoon splits.

Yeah, I’m not sure why they don’t have them.

20. Stuart Turkeylink (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 11:01 AM

New thread up…soon.

21. Rusty (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 11:03 AM

It would have brought his batting line up to around .265/.350/.400 if all the hits were singles.  Those are estimates, but they’re probably pretty close.  A much different batting line compared to what he really did:  .236/.301/.377

Maybe the Cubs should give him a few more months in 2010… he is cheap and plays good defense.  He definitely slumped for much of 2009.  If you combine a low BABIP with a slump you’re going to have some pretty shitty numbers.

Something that would really excite me this offseason would be if fangraphs added platoon splits.

If they had this I probably wouldn’t visit other sites.

What would have Soto’s year looked like?

22. MB21 (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 11:09 AM

What would have Soto’s year looked like?

Around .260/.370/.425 if all hits were singles.  About that.

23. MB21 (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 11:10 AM

Basically, only 3 qualified catchers would have had a higher OPS than Soto.  Wow, he really got screwed in 2009.  I’m much more optimistic about his chances to recover now.

24. Mercurial Outfielder (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 11:15 AM

Yeah, I’m much more optimistic about Soto than Fontenot.  I think Fontenot will start hitting LHP as soon as Fukudome does. Which is to say, never.

25. JCust (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 11:20 AM

Around .260/.370/.425 if all hits were singles.  About that.

That’s a .795 OPS. That’s not all that a bad at all. That would have been a respectable season.

Anyways MO, I think I found something that proves my friend wrong. I believe a medical officer can hold command of a non-combat unit or a garrison correct?

26. JCust (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 11:20 AM

Yeah, I’m much more optimistic about Soto than Fontenot.  I think Fontenot will start hitting LHP as soon as Fukudome does. Which is to say, never.

Fontenot against LHP=FonteFAIL.

27. Stuart Turkeylink (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 11:21 AM

New thread up…soon.

28. Mercurial Outfielder (view all comments) — Nov 02, 2009 @ 11:21 AM

I only served in combat units, JC.  I’m not too sure how things work on the other side of the house. When Perkins is around, you should ask him.



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