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2010 Top Cubs Prospects

Baseball America’s Top 10 Cubs Prospects

Posted by MB21 on Monday, November 16, 2009 at 10:59 AM

Baseball America has released their Cubs top 10 prospects and Jim Callis will have a chat about it at 1 pm if you’re interested.  The Top 10 are:

1.  Starlin Castro, ss
2. Brett Jackson, of
3. Josh Vitters, 3b
4. Andrew Cashner, rhp
5. Jay Jackson, rhp
6. Hak-Ju Lee, ss
7. Logan Watkins, 2b
8. Chris Carpenter, rhp
9. Ryan Flaherty, ss/2b/3b
10. D.J. LeMahieu, ss/2b

I’m still unsure how Vitters is that high.  I’m especially confused to find him higher than Andrew Cashner.  Baseball America either thinks the Cubs have 4 really good prospects or they don’t think as highly of Cashner as they’ve made it sound up to this point.  In order to read the scouting reports you must have a subscription or buy the handbook in the spring that will have the top 30 prospects for each team.  The 2012 projected starters are:

Catcher Geovany Soto
First Base Derrek Lee
Second Base Starlin Castro
Third Base Aramis Ramirez
Shortstop Hak-Ju Lee
Left Field Josh Vitters
Center Field Brett Jackson
Right Field Kyler Burke
No. 1 Starter Carlos Zambrano
No. 2 Starter Jay Jackson
No. 3 Starter Chris Carpenter
No. 4 Starter Ryan Dempster
No. 5 Starter Randy Wells
Closer Andrew Cashner

As you can see, BA doesn’t even think Vitters will be able to force the Cubs to move an aging Ramirez to another position or let him go.  He’s projected to be the left fielder.  These obviously don’t consider potential free agent signings or trades.  It’s basically a depth chart. 

Cashner has the best fastball and slider in the system while Coleman has the best changeup and best control.  Brett Jackson is the best overall athlete and the team’s best power hitting prospect.  Hak-Ju Lee is the best hitter for average and Kyler Burke has the best discipline and outfield arm.  Too bad it took him a decade to complete Low A ball. 

Vitters had been the team’s top prospect since he was drafted, but a couple of players have easily passed him at this point.  Below is what BA says about the future of the top 5 Cubs prospects.

Starlin Castro

The Future: Castro’s stellar AFL performance further accelerated his timetable. He’ll probably open 2010 back in Tennessee because Darwin Barney is slated for Triple-A Iowa, but there’s rumbling that Castro could be in Chicago by season’s end. He has all the ingredients to become the Cubs’ first all-star shortstop since Shawon Dunston in 1990.

Brett Jackson

The Future: After using five different regular center fielders in the last five years, the Cubs are seeking stability. They may send Jackson to Double-A to start his first full pro season, and he could reach Chicago by the end of 2011.

Josh Vitters

The Future: By pounding Arizona Fall League pitching, Vitters made a case for opening 2010 in Double-A. He’s on course to hit the majors by the end of 2011.

Andrew Cashner

The Future: Whether he’s a frontline starter or a closer, Cashner should be a big part of Chicago’s future. He’ll likely begin 2010 in Double-A and could make his big league debut later in the year.

Jay Jackson

The Future: Once Jackson throws quality strikes on a more consistent basis, he’ll be ready for the big league rotation. He’ll probably return to Double-A to start 2010.

BA also says that the Cubs haven’t ruled out Hak-Ju Lee skipping a level and starting 2010 at Daytona.  They also think he’s more athletic and will push Castro to 2nd base.  BA says that Logan Watkins should get a look at SS or CF, but being at the same level with Lee and Jackson make that more difficult.  There’s never been any doubt about Chris Carpenter’s potential, but he’ll have to stay healthy (duh!).  The Cubs haven’t settled on a position yet for Flaherty and he could end up like a Mark DeRosa type player.  The Cubs “believe in LeMahiue’s bat” but they’re also unsure what position to put him in.  BA believes if the Cubs settle on a position soon that he’ll move quickly through the system. 

There will be a lot of debate among the fans about Brett Jackson being higher than Josh Vitters.  Don’t listen to it.  Brett Jackson is significantly better than Vitters.  Jackson plays a premium defensive position well, he has good speed, a strong arm and his throws are accurate.  He runs the bases well, can hit about .280, takes a lot of walks and has a great eye at the plate.  He hits home runs without overswinging and does not chase bad pitches.  He also has more power than Vitters who scouts think is a left fielder or 1st baseman.  Jackson has a huge edge in defense, position, patience and a small edge in power and he’s the best athlete in the Cubs organization.  Vitters plays a corner spot poorly, runs below average, has average power and could hit .300.  That’s the one edge Vitters has over Jackson and it doesn’t come close to making up for the advantages Jackson has on Vitters.

The Chicago Cubs Top Prospects…By You

Posted by Stuart Turkeylink on Monday, November 02, 2009 at 12:13 PM

You fuckers probably get sick of hearing my opinion on prospects, so I’m going to give you a dose of your own medicine.

Nearly 100 of you who read every word weighed in on the Chicago Cunts’ top prospects. And here’s what you said (total points in parentheses)…

Top 10
1. Josh Vitters (2998)
2. Starlin Castro (2782)
3. Bert Jackson (2716)
4. Andrew $ner (2622)
5. Hak-Ju Lee (2570)
6. Jay Jackson (2524)
7. Chris Carpenter (2394)
8. Kyler Burke (2052)
9. Tyler Colvin (2006)
10. Dae-Eun Rhee (1806)

Most people will include at least 8 of those names in any CHC top 10 list. I think many of you are underrating Jay Jackson and Chris Carpenter, but they do have question marks. Kyler Burke is a name that could shoot up this list with a strong showing at Daytona next year.

Here’s the next 10…
11. DJ LaMehieu (1762)
12. John Gaub (1726)
13. Beef Castle (1724)
13. Ryan Flaherty (1724)
15. Chris Archer (1528)
16. Darwin Barney (1492)
17. Jeff Stevens (1456)
18. Jeffry Antigua (1330)
19. Tony Thomas (1274)
20. Casey Coleman (1238)

Poor Casey Coleman. The Cubs minor league pitcher of the year barely cracked the top 20 in you jerks’ minds. You already know what happened to John Gaub. As I’ve said several times, I’m higher on Jeffry Antigua than most. Look at what he did at Boise, 18, and Peoria, 19: http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=antigu001jef

Here’s the final 10…
21. Ryan Searle (1234)
22. Austin Kirk (1222)
23. Marquez Smith (1182)
24. Mitch -Carbs (1126)
25. Brooks Raley (1116)
26. Logan Watkins (980)
27. James Adduci (924)
28. Chris Rusin (792)
29. Dan McDaniel (590)
30. Robert Whitenack (400)

Searle started the year strong at Daytona as a 19 year old. Kirk had good peripherals as an 18 year old at Boise and the AZL. Brooks Raley was an over-slot 6th round two-way player out of college. Rusin’s a polished lefty that could move quickly.

Anyway, I won’t bore you with my thoughts on all of these players. This is your list. You have to live with it.


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